7th January 2018, 06:14 PM #1TomTom Expert
This is something I am interested in. Particularly, as I drive a lot in the Manchester area and in Bucharest
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Actually, without TomTom traffic, I know I would be in jams a lot. However because Traffic is LIVe, I very rarely get caught in many, though I see many on routes. Especially if I was using the traffic from Audi or Vauxhall which really suck
TomTom uses mobile cell location movement as well as radio broadcasts. It really is superior to other GPS systems. That is not only on my GO5200, but also on the Android Go Mobile. Luckily I have free updates for life for maps and traffic.
OK, there are sometimes when I prefer google maps, but that is not often really and the Car Nav 8" screen is great anyway. Easier to plan routes too as it happens (Vauxhall) Audi is not as easy unless touch screenthe Maverick Reviewed by the Maverick on . Traffic This is something I am interested in. Particularly, as I drive a lot in the Manchester area and in Bucharest TomTom Traffic Index (https://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/trafficindex/list?citySize=LARGE&continent=EU&country=ALL) Actually, without TomTom traffic, I know I would be in jams a lot. However because Traffic is LIVe, I very rarely get caught in many, though I see many on routes. Especially if I was using the traffic from Audi or Vauxhall which really suck TomTom uses mobile cell Rating: 5One day, someone might make things work perfectly before release. Sadly not in my or your lifetime. At least by finding problems and sorting them, we are still alive.
12th January 2018, 03:09 AM #2
I remember discussing this with you a while ago. But something sort of happened and we dropped the conversation but thanks for bringing this up again. Right now I have two devices on hand, an XL 335 (IQ Routes2) and the Go 950. Both are non-live versions. I have been thinking of getting the TMC/RDS antenna for the GO 950, but I wonder how useful that would be. New Zealand rarely has major traffic jams. But on open country roads, especially the two Nelson-Christchurch roads, there can be a lot of roadworks, and that is not fun.
Am I correct in assuming that the GO5200 uses something other than a simple inbuilt RDS/TMS antenna? You mentioned 'mobile cell location movement'. Would that thing only be available to devices that can make use of the phone's GSM location? I have already confirmed on the forum that New Zealand does have radio stations that broadcast traffic updates. What would you recommend?
When I was getting the 950, I assumed that it would be the 'live' version but it is not, and that is not fun :-( I think the 950 does everything I want minus the traffic and the live (especially mobile) speedcams. But still, does it make sense to invest in a better device? Or get that antenna? Or what? :-)You're beautiful. Yes - you reading this! :-)
12th January 2018, 03:39 AM #3TomTom Expert
No, the antenna attachment only picks up those broadcasts from the RDS with TMS signals which it quite common in cars anyway with TM on stations anyway. The sort you get when driving and a radio announcement stating there is a delay on a road. Usually, you know this already because you stuck in it or about to. So really it is not that worthwhile unless announcement made somewhere that you would be planning to travel on quite some way away. The live versions really are the only ones that update live. The mobile speedcams really are great live. A road near me that I possibly use sometimes 4 or five times in a day. sometimes is a mobile speed can and only shows when there is one. So really live traffic/speedcams are worth it if you decide to upgrade rather than an antenna. mine has wifi, but it really is not needed. the go5100 is just as good, but need a pc or laptop connection. my car is a wifi hotspot, so I do not bother as updates whilst driving anyway or from another hotspot place. Quite frankly not worth the extra money unless buying a used one from eBay etcOne day, someone might make things work perfectly before release. Sadly not in my or your lifetime. At least by finding problems and sorting them, we are still alive.
12th January 2018, 04:16 AM #4
Thanks, Maverick. And what about the 6200? Is it any good? And I should leave the antenna idea alone, then?
Basically, if I am after the live traffic and the live speedcams, which is the lowest device with support for those? Thanks!You're beautiful. Yes - you reading this! :-)
12th January 2018, 06:21 AM #5TomTom Expert
The only difference between the 5100 and 5200 is 5" screen but with WiFi and
the 6100 and 6200 is 6" screen but with WiFi, so it is screen size onlyOne day, someone might make things work perfectly before release. Sadly not in my or your lifetime. At least by finding problems and sorting them, we are still alive.
12th January 2018, 01:46 PM #6
Do not overvalue the Live Services. If you are the first car "flashed" by mobile speedcam, because nobody before make a message about this, the Live Services are just also only crap ...
I think in NZ a TMC is more than sufficient. The radio stations should know the roadworks. No reason to throw a working Go950 in the trash. If you need a new one, than a 5xxx or 6xxx...
13th January 2018, 01:57 AM #7TomTom Expert
13th January 2018, 05:59 AM #8
Thanks very much for the info, Alfred, Maverick. The links were both very useful. Right, so the radio stations should have the traffic delays, you say? Pardon my ignorance but can you please explain to me what 'mobile speedcams' are? An officer with a hand-held radar? A police car with a radar in it? If it is either of these two, how in the world can TomTom or anyone know where they would camp on that particular day? From what I know, such locations are random and dynamic by their very definition. So how does this work?
A 'live' unit, for me, would be quite useful if they can warn me about these mobile cameras because speedlimit enforcement is quite rigid in New Zealand. And the country's max limit is 100 kmph on any road anywhere. I always adhere to this limit but my V6 tends to forget this sometimes and I find myself at 110 which is not good and I wouldn't want a ticket for such rare transgressions. Hence the need to have the safety cams, if possible, live.
Of course I know that I have digressed from the 'traffic' discussion but I seem to now agree with both of you that an antenna might just do the trick for me and live traffic may not be as necesarry. As such, I don't want to throw out a working 950. Hence, these questions about the speedcams to help me decide if I should go fofr a 'live unit' such as 740/940 maybe? The 5100/5200/6100/6200 are out of my budget for the moment, sadly, and I cannot find a used one here in NZ.
Thanks, guys. And sorry, Maverick, for the thread hijack! :-)You're beautiful. Yes - you reading this! :-)
13th January 2018, 09:22 AM #9TomTom Expert
Well, they do know the mobile ones and let you know are there. Random times, but here on the road I travel on, they tend to be in two places, but TT Live does pick them up and they disappear when they go. This had been the case for me in Bolton. Around a formerly fast road, but now 50mph, they sometimes sit in a layby. I was warned by that, but also knew there might be one as a few cars flashed lights
Maybe police warn online in UK that they are doing. There are a lot more mobiles now getting uninsured cars off the road with number plate recognition. About time too.
13th January 2018, 05:20 PM #10
Thats right, all non permanent installed speedcams are mobile speed cams by defination (e.g. radar, laser). Only if one of these control points has been reported to the TT service, TT can make a live-services-warning about it. The old PNA like Go 950 can use POI-listings (own and/or from TT) of speed cams (fixed cams an mobile), but in case of the mobile speed cams/control points these warnings are a "may be or not". In germany also not all fixed cams are activ 24/7, but do you (or TT) know which of them? Both systems (live services and POI listings) are not perfect in case of speed warnings, but of course the live services can also offer a lot of other helpful things.
There is a residual risk at all times in terms of speed monitorings. In Austria e.g. even a policeman without any device can estimate your speed. If he says you were to fast, you must pay. So always drive carefully
There is a usable feature in the TT-devices: "warning if your speed are over the (known) limit". You get a "bing, bing, bing" (or a warning sound by your choice), if to fast. The warning threshold is adjustable ( 5 or 10 kmh/miles about the limit).