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10th December 2014, 07:53 PM #1
TomTom Carminat NC 7.842
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please if someone had experience with older TomTom Carminat, NC 7.842, and patching it to work with latest maps. Situation is next, in car was originally NC 7.842, older one for TomTom Carminat, so tried to load newer NC like 8.842, with making sd card from scratch, from original NC .cab 8.842, patched NC, renamed original file -tsystem to ttsystem after patching, extracted ttgo.bif from original sd card and folder loopdi, from file ext3_loopback, activated maps like usually with original ttgo.bif, where is located device id, serial, etc. , .dct files for activation maps created, so everthing looked ok.
Until car is turned off, inserted prepared sd card with NC 8.842, SW started load, and then appeared window where to select map i want use, tried select one of maps i loaded, but there was message "can't use these maps on this device", i know this message usually appears if map version isn't compatible for appropriate NC, but in this case i used this map,
which is compatible with all NCs from 7.xx to 10.xxx, so suppose, maps aren't problem, another case when this message appears, if not .dct created, but in this case was created with original ttgo.bif 100%!
So, don't know where to look for what cause this problem!
Tried with original 7.842 NC from 7.841 .cab, prepared sd card from scratch, NC patched, maps activated by Fastactivate, but still same problem, with message "these maps, can't be used on this device"!
Don't know what else to try, if someone has some experience with this problem, or idea what can cause this problem, and what to try, to solve it, please post?
Maybe to try "reset" of TT Carminat, but turnin off car, opening door, that display turn off, removing sd , then turning on car, waiting to see message "maps not found", then turning off, opening door, and then to insert new sd created on scratch?
Thanks!zole Reviewed by zole on . TomTom Carminat NC 7.842 Hello all, please if someone had experience with older TomTom Carminat, NC 7.842, and patching it to work with latest maps. Situation is next, in car was originally NC 7.842, older one for TomTom Carminat, so tried to load newer NC like 8.842, with making sd card from scratch, from original NC .cab 8.842, patched NC, renamed original file -tsystem to ttsystem after patching, extracted ttgo.bif from original sd card and folder loopdi, from file ext3_loopback, activated maps like usually with Rating: 5
10th December 2014, 08:19 PM #2Administrator
I would suggest another way
1-On your own SD card you can see the ID of the device
2-You have to take an empty SD-card and copy it soft 8841 (this one)
3-You must insert the SD card into the device and start the device
4-You should choose your map and activate it
5-You must copy your map on SD-card
6-You can use it and enjoy
11th December 2014, 06:10 AM #3
I tried with my empty SD Card 2 GB and 8.842, same problem, with original ID from device taken....
Why you think 8.841 will work ok, some special reason, that 8.841 will work, even 8.842 didn't work, at all NC works ok, but when try to choose pre-activated maps, with created .dct files, it wont, and reports "these maps aren't for this device" ?
11th December 2014, 12:00 PM #4GPS Contributor
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That dont exist.
Remove .DTC and activate normally
11th December 2014, 01:14 PM #5Administrator
If you can-don't ask me now: what and why I think.
(Any person may be something to think about when holding your device in his hands and knows exactly what this device is made)
Just do what I wrote. It will be much faster and more useful for you.
1st March 2015, 08:05 AM #6
You didn't understand on right way what i wished say, pre-activated = activate before inserted in car, with some of tools like fasactivate, etc. , so activation was done on correct way, but carminat wouldn't recognize maps.
Don't be rude, question was simple, if you wrote something, then explain, cause you didn't write anything special new, than i tried, that's why i asked, why you think 8.841 will work with maps, even 8.842 didn't work, and i wrote clearly that already tried on new empty sd card.
So, what you wrote is useless, if no some explanation, why that could work...
1st March 2015, 01:07 PM #7Administrator
1 - I am not rude.I can't see your hands and your head. It you say you did everything correctly. And what, really?
2-I do not know English so well to explain everything in detail.
3-what I wrote is a statement that has been used successfully by hundreds (or thousands) of people
4-if you use fastactivate, but the map does not work-just use a different activator (this is a very common mistake opinionated people)
5-You use office software version. I offered a ready-made soft You don't even want to understand where your error.
Such errors may be three
- notpatched software (or incorrectly patched)
- notactivated map (or incorrectly activated)
Other reasons simply do not exist. So think where you did wrong
6-Again roughly? You two months were offended by my rudeness, or tried to do something?
And a little advice for the future: if you asked me help you to accurately carry out the instructions that you give. This will help you.
4th March 2015, 03:13 AM #8
1. Read OP
2. Your English wasn't problem, i told you previously, that you didnt wrote anything new, than i tried already.
3. I know, that's why i asked, and i tried on same way, what hundred or thousands people did, created SD card from scratch with 8.841, and with 8.842, with bot of them, same results, NC loaded succesfully, but didnt want read maps, but message that maps can't be used on this device...
4. Think, there isn't problem by fastactivate, cause it worked for other tomtom devices, for my TT ONE pna, at all fasactivate is same like other activators, use same logic, import meta and then just generate appropriate .dct for map files, so doubt that there is problem with fastactivate.
5. "office" sw? I made SD card from scratch, 8.841, and 8.842, patched ttsystem, by FS, but same problem, and you posted 8.841, but i loaded already patched 8.842, so now in car is 8.842 loaded on flash mem, so i think not good idea to downgrade 8.841 from 8.842...
-Hm, really can't say about that, cause Fastactivate patched ok ttsystem on my PNA TT ONE....
-Same for maps, Fasactivate had latest meta, and there was message, maps activated...
- Hm, used map version Western_Europe_1GB_940.5993, compatible with all NC versions, so, suppose not problem with maps?
So, like i told previously and in OP, if you read it, i tried all possible options, and still no solution... Don't know what new can get with some new tools like BBS, Easyactivator, and manny other, which are almos same, based on TTuser work and YDGpatch , all we know that ...
6 - i tried, but was absent due to some death case, and couldn't reply before...
i told you above, i asked about explanation, what new you said, that i didn't try, that's why i asked, i'm not ungrateful person, just try to see something new in your post, what i didn't try already, don't take this personally, it's just discussion, maybe this will help some other people if experience same problem...
4th March 2015, 12:56 PM #9Administrator
Well, I understand you. But understand you.
There is a worked-out scheme, which is bound to work if all actions are performed correctly.
And if this does not work-it is logical to assume that somewhere made a mistake. Nothing new to you and no one will say. One only needs to check your actions and to find this error.
I never trust automatic tool. I can't explain the reason, but already more than a dozen times such cases, as you have been cured through the use of hand tools. And it meets Carminat. Why? I don't know. But I always have to use hand tools. And very often this helps.
10th March 2015, 08:42 PM #10
Ok yuriyggg, not problem, i know you logntime ago from diff forums, and 4pda.ru, and know that you are ok guys, didnt think nothing bad, just tried to make some discussion about this problem, to try find solution, but seems here is some stupid problem, even i tried make .dcts by "hand" tools, likea easy tt tool, etc. , easy activator, bbs, etc. .dct created but again device doesnt recognize maps, so there seems to be some problem with flash memory, i give up, dont have anymore will to try something other, cause this had to work straight, but seems in my case, bad luck with this unit....