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27th January 2012, 04:13 PM #31GPS Contributor
28th January 2012, 11:28 AM #32OPJoin Date : Jan 2012Location : 0-HIGH-0Posts : 21Thanks: 0
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No reason to be waiting around............
There's plenty of uploading going on: [TomTom only]
Above and below should fill just bout anyones needs. Lotsa stuff here
28th January 2012, 05:26 PM #33Join Date : Dec 2011Location : GERMANYPosts : 2Thanks: 15
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Good morning Gentlemen,
reading all the pros and cons about the usenet, I'am willing to give it a try if one of you would help with a tutorial.
I'am not the youngest kid on the block anymore never used the usenet and I would like to know, what files/programs I need, how to register with whom and how to look up TT goodies.
I just did a check about the current rate and the way I see it it's about € 7,60 or GBP 6,40 or USD 10 per month. Compare this to TT goodies that's a big saving and I don't need them every day, week or month.
What would be interesting can one stop paying in between or do I have to pay every month even if I don't download anything ?!
Your help and support would be greatly appreciated.
28th January 2012, 05:30 PM #34GPS Contributor
the more i learn about usenet , the more i like torrents
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28th January 2012, 09:08 PM #36TomTom Master
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Whilst torrents are not forbidden in my country - I'll use them rather than paying money for hosting, moreover - to share maps with others. If someone going to pay GBP 6,40/monthly - he can buy map needed with 1-year subscription for map update - it'll be cheaper for him IMHO .
31st January 2012, 04:07 AM #37
Firstly I read someone say here that newsgroups were where file sharing started. That is incorrect. Computer Clubs and BBS boards were used to share files before Newsgroups......
If you are going to be downloading less than 180GB every 2.5 months Astraweb $25 "Pay as you go" no time limit 180GB block accounts provide the best value. I have been using Astraweb since the early 2000s and they are more than satisfactory.
Another good value Block account ($22 for 200GB) is here
I use blocknews as my backup for about the last 5 years. Even though they are cheaper I still prefer Astraweb as they have slightly more days retention and slightly better speed and completion of posts. But theres not much in it. Both have 900+ days retention of posts on binary groups.
Remember Only DOWNLOADS are counted towards this Quota.
The programs I use to access Usenet
To "read posts" I use
To Load NZB files and download I use the Free Program Grabit from here
To search Usenet for binaries and create the NZBs I use the indexing site
The the small investment you make to access premium newsgroup services is well worth it (You can access it for free if you know where to look....however retention and completion on binary groups is way less - If you are just reading the text groups they are great though) If you are lucky enough your ISP may have Premium Newsgroup access included in your plan. Check it out. It was common until the Mid 2000s to include this....today many still have it but the binary group completion and group counts are poor.
Torrents are not as good as newsgroups for these reasons......
- Torrent Downloading IPs and users can be monitored by Copyright Holders. Newgroups this is impossible...
- Torrents need seeders and after inital seeding dies down, they die quick or if there are only a couple of seeders the DL speed is slow and painful. Torrent trackers also frequently get taken down making any released torrents useless unless theres plenty of DHT seeders (Mostly there are not) Newsgroups the files are there for approx 3 years. Full speed.
- ISPs throttle torrent Downloads. Newsgroup downloads not so I have seen in the past 25 years
31st January 2012, 04:15 AM #38
For you and most users here I would recommend a "Pay as you go" Block account from Astraweb. These start at $10 one off payment.....non expiring time limit, Take as long as you like to use it. (The best value is their $25 one however). That will probably last you a very very long time.
31st January 2012, 04:32 AM #39
A 180GB non time expiring block from Astraweb is $25 once off (So if a regular joe blow was to download his 2GB map each time they were released thats 90 maps or in TT terms over 20 years worth of maps $25 for 20 years worth of maps....under 30c a map.
Only downloads are counted. Also If one person was to release\Upload a map ONCE into a Known\Common binary group Usenet theres no need for ANYONE else to upload it again, no worry about having to keep seeders, once its there in full it is there for at least 2-3 years....No one connecting to your machine wile downloading logging your activity like happens all the time with torrents.....its really a no brainer...
31st January 2012, 11:12 PM #40GPS Contributor
if i must spent cash , i might as well buy the the maps
paying for pirate-stuff is nuts
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