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    Question Lost Pin Code VS How to unbrick a nuvi PDF Question

    Will the Procedure outlined in the PDF "How to Unbrick a Nuvi" Wipe / Reset a forgotten Unlock Pin and make the unit useable again? Or will it remain locked?

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    nord001 Reviewed by nord001 on . Lost Pin Code VS How to unbrick a nuvi PDF Question Will the Procedure outlined in the PDF "How to Unbrick a Nuvi" Wipe / Reset a forgotten Unlock Pin and make the unit useable again? Or will it remain locked? Rating: 5

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    No, they are two different things.
    A forgotten PIN could be interpreted as a stolen Device.
    Garmin is able to "reset" the PIN but you must provide proof of purchase of the Device.
    If, when you entered the lock PIN (I want to believe that it is an YOUR device) you had a GPS position acquired, simply return the device to THAT position to unlock it

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    So where is the PIN information kept? In the device storage, because if it is surely a low level format tool will get rid of the info. Or is it saved on some another ROM on the board?

    As for the unit, Its not arrived in the mail yet but Of course it is my device now. I can provide proof that I purchased it on an online Auction for a sum of about $5. In a bulk lot of Frozen Boot screen Nuvi 40s and 50s .
    Last edited by nord001; 30th January 2020 at 04:23 PM.

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    It could also be, but I wouldn't be sure.
    This information is usually stored in a non-volatile and protected area, such as an EEPROM.
    I really don't know where Garmin writes this data

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    This is just downright stupid. I have purchased a $5 garmin nüvi on a fleamarket, thanks to this "feature" the perfectly working product is now landfill. Thanks Garmin. I will try to not purchase your product ever.

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    Same with all smartphones - if you tie it your account and it got lost/stolen/sold without deleting account - it pretty much is a paperweight now. Even if you reformat it, once it gets online connection - it gets blocked again.
    It's a security feature, which prevents even slightest intentions of stealing someone's property.
    And these GPS units can cost more than some smartphones when new.

    $5 is a tiny amount you have lost.. call it a price of experience.

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    Welcome to the forum.
    You cannot blame Garmin for looking after their consumers by having the option of making the device inoperative if stolen.
    In the case of the legitimate owner forgetting the PIN it can be unlocked by returning to with in 50m of the location the PIN was created.
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    You can always keep trying PIN's as it won't lock you out, or make this device & use Brute Force
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    The PIN is held in an encrypted region of the device. Even if i were to tell you that region number and how to de-crypt it, you still won't know where to look among the data for the PIN itself anyway. There's a reason forums such as this don't help with casual enquiries of this nature. Even if you THINK you have purchased the device "legally" (see below), at some point it's likely the device was stolen from it's rightful owner and on-sold, then maybe even re-sold and perhaps several times over in fact.

    In most legal jurisdictions, title of stolen goods is always retained ONLY by the lawful owner. If a thief sells or 'fences' a stolen item the title can't pass to the buyer/receiver of the item, the buyer only has possession .... and that's called conversion if the buyer knows of it's dodgy history. Not knowing of the fact that the item was originally stolen doesn't remedy the problem of the possessor lacking title, it just may mitigate what action the legal authorities may take against you if you're found out. It may be as simple as saying "Bad luck old chap. We're going to give this back to the original owner" or as serious as being changed with receiving stolen goods or conversion. Your only remedy may be against the seller if you can find him and can be bothered to try getting your money back.

    I could find the PIN for you in a matter of minutes ... but i won't because of what i've said above.

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    So we are to assume every 2nd hand device has been previously stolen?

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    There is nothing worse than coming to a forum asking for help and getting a response like that.

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    If it's purchased PIN locked, yes it is a reasonable assumption. The owner who entered the PIN originally need only go to the security location to unlock it. It's very unlikely that'd they forget the location easily, it's not like forgetting the PIN.

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    Your opinion would be justified if he was the *original* owner and had a verifiable purchase receipt but he's bought it 2nd hand "as-is" knowing it was PIN locked. My experience with PIN locked devices isn't limited to this thread or forum. There was extensive discussion about the moral and ethical considerations of helping ppl recover PINs over in G P S Power some time back. Even the most hard-core pirates over there drew the line at helping unknown ppl with that problem. I'm not the only user who knows how to do it, i'm just the only one who's posted suggesting he's not going to get help with it and i think i've justifiably explained *why* i won't do so.

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